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Sunghwan Kim | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 12:52

Hi, Amita.

Try to search PubChem for the same compound. You will be able to find one record for the query. Go to its compound summary page and look into what kind of information is available and what is missing in PubChem that does exist in Reaxys, vice versa. And figure out how to go from this record to records in other databases (e.g., literature, protein, gene, disease, and so on). In this way, you will start noticing differences between the two databases.

Sunghwan Kim | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 12:06

Hi, Nwume,

First of all, you really need to have a specific question that you want to answer, and then need to find a way to how to answer that question.  When you don’t have a good question to answer, you just can’t answer it.  So, please write down your question that ends with a question mark, and then list a set of tasks that you need to do to answer that question.  If you can’t identify a specific task(s) for finding the answer, it is likely to mean that your question is too broad, so need to write a new question (or questions) that is narrower than the original one.  Repeat this until you see what you really want to ask and how you find the answer to it.

By the way, to find psychoactive drugs from PubChem, probably the best approach is to user the PubChem classification browser (https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/classification).

 

(1) Go to the classification browser, select “MeSH” from the “Select classification” drop-down menu (on the top-left) and “Compound” for the “Data type counts to display” option.

(2) Type “antipsychotic agents” in the text box and run a search by hitting the search button.   This returns ~9 MeSH terms with which any PubChem Compounds are annotated.

(3) Click the record count for one of the hits to explore (for example, “Antipsychotic Agents”).  This gives you a list of 207 compounds annotated with the MeSH term “antipsychotic agents”.

(4a) Refine the resulting compound list using various filters available under “Refine your results” on the right column.  You can retrieve the compounds with protein-bound experimental 3-D structures by clicking “Protein 3D Structure”, or retrieve the compounds with bioactivity data by clicking “BioAssays, Tested”.

(4b) Alternatively, you can click the “Structure Clustering” button under the “Actions on your results” section (on the top-right).

(4c) Another thing that you can try is to retrieve records in other databases associated with the antipsychotic drugs, using the dropdown menus in the “Find related data” section (on the right column).  For example, by selecting “BioSystems” from the dropdown menu, you will get a list of pathways associated with the psychotic drugs.

 

Well, there are many other things you can do with PubChem as well as Reaxys, but you can get the most out of these resources, only if you have a clear question that you want to answer.  I think you need to come up with some good idea about it.

 

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Damon Ridley | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 04:05
Nwume Dr Kim will help you with researching this topic in PubChem. Below are suggestions for finding information in Reaxys. From the Landing Page, in the text search box enter: psychotic disorders. Click Search. You will see a list of options. Choose the top one and you will retrieve over 10,000 Document Records. You can browse through these (e.g., click Abstract and Index Terms). You can also try Filters and Analysis options. At the top of the list is Index Terms and when you click the down arrow you see the most listed Index Terms IN REAXYS. However, even this list shows up a number of options that will enable you to narrow the answers by various drug terms That's quite neat, right? However, uniquely Reaxys can directly answer what you really want to find, that is all the substances that have been tested for 'psychotic disorders'. The point is that Substance Records in Reaxys have information in over 400 'property' fields. This information can be text (millions and millions and millions of terms!) or numeric (things like melting points, electrical conductivities, mechanical properties that have numeric terms and so forth). What we really want to do is find all those substances that have text terms relating to 'psychotic disorders' and we search for such terms in Substance Records in the Substance Basic Index. To get to it, click Query builder at the top of the screen. Then under Search properties enter: substance basic. Then click, drag and drop the top-listed one (for Reaxys) into the main workspace. Click the down arrow on the left and choose 'contains'. Terms you now enter will be searched with left- and right- truncation. I suggest you enter terms: psychotic; schizophen; bipolar (the semi-colons ; indicate OR). Click Search (Substances) on the top-right. You now get over 23,000 substances. They are listed by number of references so fairly trivial substances appear at the top of the list. Nevertheless when you click Hit Data (and the the field) you get an idea of what was searched. It is up to you now to decide how you want to narrow the substances. If you don't have anything in particular, then I suggest as an example that you click Structure (under Filters and Analysis), then draw the structure of 1,4-piperazine (a saturated 6-membered ring with N's in the 1 and 4 positions), click (on the right panel) substructure and check boxes: tautomers. Finally, click Transfer to filter. From the next screen, click Limit to and you get all the substances with the 1,4-piperazine structure that have been tested for the text terms you initially searched. Browse through some of the substances and the Hit Data, and you will see a lot of actual data, right?! Damon

Anja Brunner | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 03:47
Hello Nwume! The topic "drugs for controlling psychotic disorders" is very broad. To do justice to this project, where you really look at how PubChem and Reaxys might complement each other in answering an information research question, it would make sense to narrow down your topic; that is, to define a specific question you want to answer about these drugs. Are you interested in a particular drug? Are you interested in the properties of these drugs? There are a lot of mental disorders; which specific one would you like to tackle? Dr. Kim and Damon gave some very sound advice in the comments above about how to narrow down your research topic, which will make it easier to define what kind of search you need to perform. Take a look at what they wrote above and please get back to us with the question you want to address in your search. Then, the three of us can help guide you through the searches that can be performed in PubChem and Reaxys. Looking forward to working with you! Anja

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Damon Ridley | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 03:17
Lyndsie How are you going? Pease let me know what you have done - so that I can make sure you are on the "right track". Damon

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Damon Ridley | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 03:06
Amita How are you going finding information on the use of nanomaterials to clean up wastewater? As I suggested in my earlier note it probably is best to search for three of the concepts: "nano", wastewater, wood/cellulose, so one of the starting points could be simply to search in Search Reaxys (the text option from the landing page): nanomaterials wood wastewater. When you do this you get 6 Documents and you can browse through them. However, the question is: "How did Reaxys perform the search?" Well, a couple of weeks ago (yes, Reaxys is constantly adding functions and features) Reaxys added the Edit Query feature which shows you exactly what was searched. To see this feature, from the list of choices you get after you do the search above, hover with the mouse over Preview Results for the 6 Documents and a link: Edit Query will appear. Click it. It tells you the search was done in the Document Basic Index (which contains single terms from all the 54+ million Document Records) and you will note that a number of synonyms for 'nanomaterials' were searched automatically (the semi-colon ; between the terms shows that the terms were ORed together), but only a few terms were searched automatically for 'wood' and 'wastewater'. The good thing is that you can easily modify the search so let's now think about it. In the top line, if you click the down arrow on the left you find some options, so why don't you chose 'starts with'. What then happens is that Reaxys automatically applies "right-hand truncation' for the term you now enter. On that line then delete all the suggested terms and simply enter: nano. What Reaxys then will do is search for all terms starting with the letters NANO. Next think about the next line (the one with wood). We need to allow for wood, woodchip (and various other 'woody things'). We also need to consider synonyms relating to 'cellulose'. Are you with me? If you are then adjust the down arrow to 'contains' and enter: wood; cellulose. 'Contains' applies left- AND right-truncation, so with ; meaning OR what we are asking for is any term in the Document Basic Index that has the letters WOOD or the letters CELLULOSE. That should reasonably cover the woody concept. Finally, change the last line to 'contains' and enter: waste which will pick up wastewater, waste water ... or any term that contains WASTE somewhere. Note that Reaxys will AND these together. That is, we are searching all concepts in the one go. At the top, click Search (Documents) and have a look at what you get (well over one thousand document records, right). That is, click Abstract, Index Terms, play around with some of the Filters and Analysis tools (although remember that Index Terms under Filters and Analysis only looks at Reaxys terms; for Emtree or Compendex terms we have to do something else, which I can help you with if you are interested). I think that's enough clues at the moment. Have a go and let me know what you think. I shall send you some contact information to get to me through your contact Information. In summary, all we did was try a few of the terms in Search Reaxys. We looked at Edit Query and learnt how Reaxys searched. We then used this information to guide us what to do next - in other words with Reaxys' initial help we 'took control of the search'. We thought like scientists (not like dummy Googlers) and we came up with a really good answer set which we could look at further. Have fun! Damon

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Damon Ridley | Wed, 04/12/2017 - 02:28
Amita, What you did was exactly correct. Bioactivity Data in Substance Records may appear in one of two ways: 1. There simply is a reference with a note that bioactivities are present (and unfortunately you have to go to the original literature to find the data); 2. extensive bioactivity data is actually given. Unfortunately in the case of Quat 188 all the information in the Substance Record is of the first type. Good news is that you have found relevant documents; bad news is that you would have to go through the original papers to find the specific information - but you don't have to do that for the purposes of this project. You will note that the record for Quat 188 (Reaxys Registry Number 6576172) contains information under Other Data and there are 88 documents relating to the specific substance. You could browse through some of these to see if there is anything of interest. You could also Search Reaxys: quat 188 in which case you find a few Document Records, but at a quick glance they don't appear to have biological activity data. The other thing you could do is Google: MSDS quat 188. When you do that you find the MSDS (Materials Safety Data Sheet). I shall comment on your other search in a separate comment. Damon

OLCC S197 | Tue, 04/11/2017 - 16:50
Hy Dr kim, i am working on drugs for controlling psychotic disorder please if there is any idea you can give me on how to use reaxys and pubchem to do my project thanks from NWUME .

Cody Ward | Tue, 04/11/2017 - 16:25
In the lab I work with, we use antibodies a lot for tagging many different target molecules. One idea I've had is using a smart sheet that can produce information about antibodies (or targets) that I search. There are various websites such as Santa Cruz Biotech, Abcam, Abnovex, and Biocompare.com so it may be cool to have smart sheet that could search more than one site at a time, so that data could be compared. Thanks, Cody

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Robert Belford | Tue, 04/11/2017 - 15:57
Emily and Cody, I am assuming you are both doing module 7, which should help with background skills. I think one of the challenges is that a smart spreadsheets are effectively cognitive tools that help you perform a task, and what you are doing is developing the skills to make that tool. Part of the challenge with a project like this is picking the "task" you would like to perform. So for example, in module 3 I wanted to be able to pull spectra images and data from the NIST Webbook, and did that with the sheet Name2Spectra. So what I suggest you two do, is start writing down ideas of the types of data you would like to be able to pull into a spreadsheet. Dr. Kim has already done some of these, but you can expand. For example, being able to pull an image of any molecule by writing its name, would be cool, or a mol file, that could then be loaded into JSmol. Dr. Kim already got the image to work, but can you break it? That is, can you use a common name or synonym? And then, is there a way you can get the synonym to work? Or how many ways can you do a task? And then compare them? (using PubChem, Chemspider, Opsin, NCI Chemical Resolver,...). But I think step one is to find something to do that you think is cool. Cheers, Cheers, Bob